Portal: Prelude Forum

That's a good idea man. I won't try it out though 'cause I suck too much at the last jump :p.

Also, about chamber 3, the least time challenge. It's possible to do in 16 seconds. I just did it in 17 like monkeysee, but in a very slightly different way. Instead of jumping on the portal gun holder, walk on the slightly elevated platform and jump on the edge sticking out of the wall. Like that, you're not going to loose the time to position yourself to do the jump (if you jump on the gun holder), now you can do it in a more fluent motion (grabbing the gun, and jumping on the edge).

I don't know if it's really clear what I'm saying though, but with with this you can get 16 secs.


-DZJB

Last edited by DZJB (21-11-2008 00:20:32)

Kingpin wrote:

10 possible. 9 not possible. 8 HELL NO!

Oh and I also realised that chamber 3 was possible to do faster, and your explanation was perfect, thats probably the way to shave off a second...also abh would maybe make 15 seconds possible but I cant be bothered trying that chamber.

Getting it in 10 would be fantastic dude... If it were something that was easy to grind, okey, but that last jump is too annoying.

ABH where exactly? In the beginning after the fizzler to get the poral gun: it'll probably make a little difference. But after that, I don't think that ABh will have much effect. Especially 'cause that damned door doesn't open very quickly.

-DZJB

New ideas for chamber 4:

Least portals will probably always be 2 (but don't take my word on that).

Least steps:  This chamber can be done in as few steps as it takes to get down into the pit that's directly in front of you.  I managed to get down there in 10, although I've done it in 9 for sure so that's definitely possible, but I'm not too knowledgeable of anything lower.  Either ABH or bunnyhop straight into the pit using as few steps as possible.

The pit:  Here's the idea.  As you're falling in, you need to shoot a blue portal on the hanging ceiling to the left a little and then an orange on the floor, so you fall through that hanging ceiling and get speed.   Look straight down as you fall through, and shoot  blue again before you hit the ground, so you continue falling, and fling out of your original orange.  The keys to this part are portal placement and keeping all of your momentum when you pop out so you can make it up to the ledge.
Now, when you fling back out of your original orange, if you were to let yourself fall back in you would pop out of the blue and hit your head on that low ceiling, and lose your momentum.  That's bad.  So when you pop out of your orange, you need to replace your blue portal so that it's not blocked.  Try to place it right in front of the ledge you're trying to get to.
The trigger for opening the door at the end is to just be over that ledge.  Once your body is over it, it will open and stay open.  So if you managed to keep your momentum full from the first drop and you have a portal flinging you up next to the ledge (you'll be a bit higher than it), just lean forward over the ledge in the air until the door opens and then pull back before you land on the ledge, so you don't lose a step.  Now with the door open, you're just trying to shoot a portal into the last hallway, on the ground.
Once in the last hallway, make it to the end, and set up some portals to fling yourself into the elevator without wasting any steps (it's a difficult maneuver at first but when you get the hang of it, it's pretty easy).

The idea is the same for least time:  ABH to the pit, ceiling shot, floor shot as you fall right into it, then floor shot as you fall into that, fling out and lean over the ledge, shoot a portal into the last hallway (and in time mode you can use the ceiling or the walls to shoot your portal onto since you're not worried about steps) and just fall back into your portal, flinging you in that last hallway.  This strategy should be able to get 10 seconds if executed almost flawlessly.

You guys still around here? Not much has happened here as it seems. I got chamber 03 in 16 secs without ABHing... My first attempt for a least time challenge record lol.

Might try for some other stuff now, it depends how hard some of the current records are. I'll look around tomorrow!


-DZJB

Kingpin wrote:

Maybe I will add some ABH to chamber 03 and see if it can be done in 15.

Take your time man :p No need to rush things haha!

Anyways, good to see you're still here. Can't wait to see what your new records will be if you're done with your hl2dm project. And I've seen your last TAS run. Wow man It's nice to see an almost perfect run (even though it's cheating).

Josh commented a few times on my channel page. Seems like he's still playing, but not on a regular basis. I'm sure if you'll get back in the loop, he'll be back as well .

If I could do it, I'd give you some competition as well, but since ABH is dominating the speedrunning scene, I'm not gonna be able to pose a challenge. 'Cause I suck at ABH...


-DZJB

Here's my goal for the next few weeks:
Chambers 13, 14 and 16 are all quite average times at the moment (no offense Josh for chamber 16) and they can each be brought down a few seconds. I actually know this to be true because I have achieved lesser times on all of them but never recorded...silly me.

Chamber 13 can be brought down to 21 possible 20 and sub-20 if the run is near perfection. Chamber 14 can be brought down to 22 seconds, I dont think any faster is possible because it depends on the orb bounce that you get to (if you watch my 25 second run again you might understand what I mean). Chamber 16 can be done in about 45 seconds and maybe less, my fastest run for 16 was 48 seconds without ABHing the last part, and it was far from perfect.

I hope you guys can have a look at these and maybe take them from me while you still can

About chamber 13, I just posted up my run in 16 seconds, I just completed it about 20 minutes ago and I am happy with it. I have already tried portalling straight on top of the second button but I doubt it will save a second, its just too hard to aim that perfectly after placing the cube on the first button. I don't think even with a slightly tweaked method that it will get much better than 16...I think 15 would have to be TAS.

Also for chamber 12, the 2 last portals are important because they give you an easy jump into the elevator and depending how fast you are with placing them, they should save some time for you. I used it in a TAS run when I achieved 11 so I know that they may be used without hesitation.