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Today, I took a little time to code a ladder for the website.
On the page, you will find the best scores for each challenge of Portal: Prelude. If you think you can beat one of those scores, we urge you to record yourself, to upload the video somewhere and to send us the following informations:
* Challenge type (least portals, least steps, least time)
* Number of the chamber (3-5, 7-19)
* Score (number of portals, steps, seconds)
* Nickname of the author (displayed on the website)
* URL of the proof (the video you recorded to prove your score)
* URL of the author's website (to advertise a bit)
I'm still trying to find my way through the tons of videos of challenges lying everywhere around the Internet. I'll try to fill it with "default" values (the one I find on this forum and youtube) and then, it will be up to you to find your way through the records and see if you made something better.
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You can access the "beta" page here:
http://www.portalprelude.com/challenges.php
If you want to give some feedback, any help is greatly appreciated.
If you want you website/nickname edited, feel free to ask too.
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This, my friend, is an awesome idea Thank you very much for putting this up. I really don't mind helping out with this:
- Chamber 03: 2Crisis was the first to do it in 2 portals I think. Vid
- Chamber 04: Again, 2Crisis seems to be the first to have posted a vid of this chamber in 2 portals. Vid
- Chamber 05: I've done it in 4 portals thanks to Jaso (Iijil) and TheAwesome (TehAwes0me). Vid
- Chamber 09: Even though I really like seeing my name on the least portal challenge, it seems like 2Crisis beat me to it again I really should have started recording stuff earlier! Vid
- Chamber 10: It might be nitpicking, but 2Crisis is using wallclimbing to solve it in 0 portals. I didn't use that. But I know he posted his vid earlier. Here is mine anyways: Vid
- Chamber 11: For the least time record, can you still ABH that last part in the new version 1.1.0.?
- Chamber 12: For the least portals, 2Crisis was the first. Vid
- Chamber 15: I think Josh was the first to solve it in 2 portals. Vid
I'll also try to look for more vids to post here. Mostly the least steps challenges, there aren't many records posted thus far...
-DZJB
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take down my chamber 11 record, it shouldn't be the record anymore, it isn't fair as DZJB points out it isn't possible to do on v1.1.0. However, I get my computer back in 3 days, and I am going to be looking for some records to smash, there are quite a few that I can bring down...actually I think all of them can be done at least a second or two faster and I will have chamber 17 and 18 done in least time too. Be prepared
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Ok, you were totally right on all of this points DZJB.
Even if I don't like the fact that Josh's video of chamber 15 isn't complete.
I added "(outdated 1.0.0)" near the nicknames of people that made these records on an outdated/changed version of the level.
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Well, I did 14 using 4 portals... Right now you've got the 5 portal version up there...
As for who deserves the spot, you can check the dates of when the videos are added. And if that isn't enough (if they added the video on the same date) you could request a screenshot of peoples 'my videos' page. You should do this but make sure they send the screenshots to you directly so they don't actually know when the other uploaded their vid, this makes counterfeiting the screenshots a lot trickier to do.... I don't say people would do this, I think the people lurking around here are pretty honest people, but it is better not to trust anyone :-/ I've got experience with that...
As for versions of the game used... it really doesn't matter that much and I would only put 'outdated' with it if the way used is not possible anymore, or if you think there is a better way.
second edit: Maybe you can place some empty records for the records that were not set yet? So you can easily see what for which rooms still needs to be set?
Last edited by sg3s (11-11-2008 16:48:08)
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sg3s wrote:
Well, I did 14 using 4 portals... Right now you've got the 5 portal version up there...
You used portal bumping.
sg3s wrote:
As for versions of the game used... it really doesn't matter that much and I would only put 'outdated' with it if the way used is not possible anymore, or if you think there is a better way.
That's what I did.
sg3s wrote:
Maybe you can place some empty records for the records that were not set yet? So you can easily see what for which rooms still needs to be set?
Right now, you can actually see where there's records missing...
If I added fake/empty records, everything would be 16/16 or 3/3 and it would go against the purpose of these numbers.
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NykO18 wrote:
sg3s wrote:
Well, I did 14 using 4 portals... Right now you've got the 5 portal version up there...
You used portal bumping.
The one with 5 also uses portal bumping. And next to that you also put the 2 portal record on chamber 18 up while the guy that made the record used a camera to keep the door open. Also, chamber 7 0 portals uses ABH to get over past the electric field faster... hmm and I'm sure there is more...
Consistency is a nice thing.
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sg3s wrote:
Consistency is a nice thing.
Yep, I know what you mean, but this again comes down to a discussion of what's legit and what's not. I'd like to hear your opinion on that matter, and NykO18's as well. I my book, legit means that everything goes, execpt OoB. ABH, bumping, sticking turrets or cameras between doors is all fine. Maybe it's not the way it was intented to play, but it's not as bad as OoB. In my thread about least portal challenges, I like to mention if ABH etc is used though, to avoid confusion.
Also, I think NykO18 was referring to this vid when he was talking about Chamber 14 in 5 portals.
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sg3s wrote:
NykO18 wrote:
sg3s wrote:
Well, I did 14 using 4 portals... Right now you've got the 5 portal version up there...
You used portal bumping.
The one with 5 also uses portal bumping.
Yes, I put the wrong video online.
Jaso made it without using glitches.
sg3s wrote:
And next to that you also put the 2 portal record on chamber 18 up while the guy that made the record used a camera to keep the door open. Also, chamber 7 0 portals uses ABH to get over past the electric field faster... hmm and I'm sure there is more...
Yes, that's not what I call a bug exploit.
If they use content provided by the game to their advantage, it's just that they're smart/ingenious.
When you exploit a bug in the game engine to pass through a wall, that's definitely not the same thing.
ABH is a bit stuck between the two, but I believe it's somewhat less weird than portal bumping.
sg3s wrote:
Consistency is a nice thing.
Indeed. Rules are too.
On this page, you will find the best scores for each challenge of Portal: Prelude without exploiting bugs.
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NykO18 wrote:
sg3s wrote:
NykO18 wrote:
You used portal bumping.The one with 5 also uses portal bumping.
Yes, I put the wrong video online.
Jaso made it without using glitches.sg3s wrote:
And next to that you also put the 2 portal record on chamber 18 up while the guy that made the record used a camera to keep the door open. Also, chamber 7 0 portals uses ABH to get over past the electric field faster... hmm and I'm sure there is more...
Yes, that's not what I call a bug exploit.
If they use content provided by the game to their advantage, it's just that they're smart/ingenious.
When you exploit a bug in the game engine to pass through a wall, that's definitely not the same thing.
ABH is a bit stuck between the two, but I believe it's somewhat less weird than portal bumping.sg3s wrote:
Consistency is a nice thing.
Indeed. Rules are too.
Code:
On this page, you will find the best scores for each challenge of Portal: Prelude without exploiting bugs.
ABH is definitely exploiting the game engine.
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I think ABH is completely legit, the reason for speedrunning is to get the fastest time...and this means that ABH should be used, as well as portal bumping or whatever bug allows you to get to the destination faster...apart from oob, thats definately not legit unless theres certain classification.
Least portals should be the same but I am not going to go into that kind of thing, but tbh, for speedrunning, both are legit however LPC, portal bumping is kind of...dodgy :S
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OH MY GOD, I GET MY COMPUTER BACK IN 1 DAY!!!!! now, anyone live in perth, Australia? I need to get the patch in person because Im scared I will go over my download cap.
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Kingpin wrote:
OH MY GOD, I GET MY COMPUTER BACK IN 1 DAY!!!!! now, anyone live in perth, Australia? I need to get the patch in person because Im scared I will go over my download cap.
Can't wait to see some more records from you ;-). Monkeyman is from Australia, but I don't know from where exactly.
-DZJB
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NykO18 wrote:
Ow, you do have a download cap in Australia?
That sucks bad.
We have one here too <_< It really sucks.
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kingpin: if u email or pm me or something i may be able to burn it to a disc and post it to you or something... inter-state mail is only a few dollars, especially if its only a cd...
be quick though, cos i would have to be trying to send it tomoro when i get back from my formal tonight...
and i live near sydney... lol... nowhere near perth... :p
i have a 22Gb download cap i think... after that the internet gets slowed to dial-up speed...
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22GB cap? I think mine is about 3-5GB shared over 5 computers....brothers and sisters ftl.
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dont worry, monkeyman has already sent it apparently, and so I will get it in the next 4-5 days.
Thanks anyway.
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