Portal: Prelude Forum

Okay here is the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh23IhOhrpc
Is that not proof XD

Last edited by Fluffles (29-06-2009 05:25:32)

I'm fluffles... a completely different person!
and also I just disproved a few things... I would like you to share more of said proof.
I am also starting to doubt him myself...
But my explanation of timescale was in response to the stupid claims on the front page of this site.
If you choose to grab stuff from youtube sites which don't have anything to do with cheating... Ie physics timescale... I'd say that's just evidence mining.

I was referring to the 1frame turn SHOOT... because if i see evidence of that it proves the point. This one frame look at ground doesn't prove anything... it can easily be a one frame corruption of the demo. which means that YOU didn't read what I just posted

Most of your points still stand.. but I'd like to see more evidence that the few frames provided.

I'd have to agree with the claims that he isn't using the proper version of portal... as when the console is open the build number isn't showing.
SO NOW PROVE YOUR POINT.
And remove the phony evidence and keep the 1frame turns.

Last edited by Fluffles (29-06-2009 09:27:56)

Ahhh nw!
So now the only proof is that one frame... that can be contributed to being just a damn demo?

Fluffles, to be honest, you are not helping with anything. I have no idea why but you seem to want to push the matter further. If you could explain to me directly why Stimich's runs happen to be 'corrupted' in this way to have frame warping, I may listen, however just by saying it could be corrupted doesn't mean anything. If you slow any other videos down done by other players I guarantee that you will not find this same effect. Call it coincidence if you like but just be wary that there is a thing called cheating.

Also Muzo, the youtube quality doesn't effect what frame is seen in the video, thats a ridiculous claim a frame is a frame no matter what the quality, we can still see where he is aiming.

Last edited by Kingpin (29-06-2009 10:46:49)

Also, this is something I need to mention:

Stimich doesn't act like most cheaters do.
I've seen many different persons accused of cheating, sometimes they were cheating, sometimes they were just that damn good. One thing I've noticed, 99% of cheaters act like a crybaby when asked to provide proof. They don't even try.

Stimich, on the other hand, is understandably angry, but he does provide proof, several times in a row. There are still some questions he didn't answer, but come on, the latest "real version" proof was uploaded TODAY! Give him some time.

Yes they are.

You cannot just say its corrupted with hard proof. Trust me youtube quality does not actually change frames, it just doesn't work like that, the quality may go down, but what you're seeing is the same.

btw, you call doing chamber 16 in vanilla portal proof? I certainly dont, you can't call that proff at all! He may be able to play portal, but its impossible to accomplish some runs he did and when I say that I actually really mean that no human could possibly do it. Chamber 12 is the best example out there, it's really not hard to tell.

You also can't judge whether he is cheating just by your personal experience of previous cheaters, that proves nothing so it is besides the point.

Last edited by Kingpin (29-06-2009 12:22:36)

Ah right... but surely there's something he can do to show you that he can actually play as good as his videos show?
Like record a video of him playing... or something of the sort. Because so far he has been treated pretty unfairly. There are so many explanations for a flick like this...

I'm open to all sorts of proofs.
I disabled the news comments in order to avoid some flame war in the commentaries, but that doesn't mean I'm close minded.

Partially unrelated:
This is just a proof of concept. Kingspin said that the source recorder for prelude was 100% foolproof - it was perfect. Now, these are just small glitches - but they are many, they prove a concept and they are similar to the ones that "proved" Stimich's guilt.
Here's the video I used:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP25f8W5 … annel_page - go to www.keepvid.com to download it and go through it frame by frame if you want.
Here's a few tiny glitches with the source recorder in the video:





(Typo in the image, actually image 2)












ALSO, here - http://www.cheatgrabber.com/index.php?s … ;submit=Go - wow! That proves it.

Last edited by Shivhead3000 (29-06-2009 19:16:04)

It amuses me that people don't know anything about the source recorder yet try to explain things...The parts when it glitches skipping frames are parts where I am moving fast, right after the fall into the portal. This skipping doesn't happen just when moving at slow speeds, you will never see it in those positions. So whoever you are whether it be one of Stimich's friends or Stimich himself, you should probably leave.

Oh and by the way idiot, your frame selection is completely wrong, they are all over the place. that one when you say "where is this?" that is at least 40-50 frames after the previous frame. Get your shit right before you say this kind of stuff.

Last edited by Kingpin (29-06-2009 20:00:44)

Kingpin wrote:

It amuses me that people don't know anything about the source recorder yet try to explain things...The parts when it glitches skipping frames are parts where I am moving fast, right after the fall into the portal. This skipping doesn't happen just when moving at slow speeds, you will never see it in those positions. So whoever you are whether it be one of Stimich's friends or Stimich himself, you should probably leave.
- So what you are saying is the faster you go, the easier it is to glitch source recorder?

Oh and by the way idiot, your frame selection is completely wrong, they are all over the place. that one when you say "where is this?" that is at least 40-50 frames after the previous frame. Get your shit right before you say this kind of stuff.
- Actually, I went through the "suspicious" areas frame by frame. They are not 40-50 frames later. They are lag that comes after as a result of your magically perfect source recorder.

Last edited by Shivhead3000 (29-06-2009 20:15:58)